True Colors Fund Gala Speech
Sara led the way with her cast from LOSERVILLE in supporting Pacer's National Bullying Prevention Center's Unity Day. "Unity Day encourages schools and communities to 'GO ORANGE' and 'BE UNITED FOR KINDNESS, ACCEPTANCE, AND INCLUSION.'"
In addition to this AMAZING and FIERCE pic of Sara that blew up or social media streams. LOSERVILLE released a series of four videos (three that featured Sara) based on different themes about bullying prevention - you can see them all here: tiny.cc/loservillefilm. To end the day, on instagram Loserville edited together Sara's statements into one amazing video of just Sara.
A #UnityDay2016 message from Loserville's @therealsararamirez. To see all of #TeamLoserville’s #UnityDay2016 video messages go to tiny.cc/loservillefilm. LOSERVILLE is proud to partner with @PACER_NBPC. If you are being bullied or know someone who is being bullied, there are resources available to you at www.pacer.org/bullying. #BeGoodToEachOther #UnityDay2016 #BeUnited #Loserville #NationalBullyingPreventionMonth
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THIS amazing moment happened @ #40ToNone
True Colors Fund Weekend
ALL you need to know to watch Loserville
Loserville New York Premiere at Village East
Loserville Los Angeles Premiere at the Arclight
So you wanna be a Producer...Sara is!!!
NBC Latino: Ted Talks Education Revolution
Glamour - the haircut that broke the internet
The Wind Beneath My Wings
Watch this NOW
"THIS SPEECH BY Wilson Cruz IS EVERYTHING. EV-ER-Y-THING!" I made a promise. I would never again walk into a space & leave any part of myself behind....#Latino & #LGBT communities must come together 2 embrace & nurture their natural coalition....if we continue to allow LGBT Latinos to live in fear for their safety...then both communities will be complicit" #Latinx #LGBTQ #Immigrant #Healing #Preach"
We have to go to this!
El Canto del Colibri (The Song of the Hummingbird)
Farewell...for now...Dr. Callie Torres
40 to None - True Colors Fund
Rock Star Sara
inner Rock Star released for a good cause? CHECK! We all know that Sara is a ROCK STAR in a million different ways, but she has joined fellow musicians in support of #DenimDay. Sara joined Maya Jupiter and Aloe Blacc for Jupiter's video for NEVER SAY YES.
TED with Sara
First up, no surprise: Shonda Rhimes My Year of Saying Yes to Everything.
Send Me: Web Series
SEND ME, the web series that Sara executive produced, is available to watch as part of BET's Black History Month Celebration. You can watch the entire series HERE! The cast include Tracie Thoms, Gabrielle Carteris, Jerrika Hinton, Jasika Nicole, Ahmed Best, Carlease Burke & Liz Femi.
This #BTS at Grey's made our day!
Grey's Anatomy still the People's Favorite
The Year In Sara
- ROLLERCOASTER! Sara released a new single that we have had on repeat.
- TED LIVE showed up on Broadway's Town Hall with our favorite Tony-winner as a host. It was four days of amazing talks capped off with live performances of Sara singing ROLLERCOASTER.
- Sara got much deserved recognition with her People's Choice nomination for best dramatic actress.
- Sara headed back into the recording booth to voice Queen Miranda for upcoming episodes of SOFIA THE FIRST.
- Sara continued to inspire us with her work as a advocate for the LGBTQ and immigrant communities while keeping us informed on many, many important issues worldwide. She also joined the board of TRUE COLORS FUND founding by Cyndi Lauper to provide assistance to homeless LGBTQ youth.
- ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY celebrated the fall premiere of TGIT with a premiere party, glorious spread of photos and interviews that brought all of our favorites together!
- Sara made this BRILLIANT speech while accepting the Ally Award from Arizona HRC.
- We celebrated Sara's 200th Episode and 10th anniversary as a series regular on GREY'S ANATOMY.
- and of course Sara continued to melt our hearts as our FAVORITE Orthopedic surgeon Callie Torres.
Winter Finale Awesome-ness....
Vote and vote often!
TED Talks Live program
November 1: The Education RevolutionCo-hosted by Baratunde Thurston and Sara Ramirez, featuring:
- Daniella Carter, founder, Gender Global
- Nadia Lopez, Mott Hall Bridges Academy principal
- Julie Lythcott-Haims, academic & best-selling author of How to Raise an Adult
- Andrew Mangino, CEO & co-founder of The Future Project
- Sean McComb, 2014 National Teacher of the Year
- Meshell Ndegeocello, musician
- Harlem Samba, Brazilian percussion ensemble
- Dena Simmons, educator at The Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence
November 2: The Education RevolutionCo-hosted by Baratunde Thurston and Sara Ramirez, featuring:
- Paul Cantelon, film composer & pianist
- Anna Deavere Smith, actress, playwright and professor
- Sam Kass, former White House chef, NBC senior food analyst & MIT Media Lab Fellow
- Sal Khan, educator & social entrepreneur
- Nadia Lopez, Mott Hall Bridges Academy principal
- Meshell Ndegeocello, musician
- Andrew Mangino, CEO & co-founder of The Future Project
- Victor Rios, sociology professor & author of Punished: Policing the Lives of Black and Latino Boys
- Dena Simmons, educator at The Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence
- John "Scrapper" Snider, trumpet
Okay, you have us curious....
Women centerstage at Grey Sloan
"Callie points it out and names it Lady Place," Ramirez tells THR. "There's some really humorous commentary made on that suggestion but the point is celebrating that most of the heads of departments are female and that's very exciting. It's a very empowering moment for a lot of women. We're normalizing it, which is what Shonda and her writers do best. They normalize issues that for a lot of people are sort of unheard of, taboo or considered outside of the norm." READ more over at The Hollywood Reporter.
Sara Ramirez, film producer...is there anything she can't do???
You can make a difference!
NEW single from Sara? YES!!!!
Season 12 Offical Trailer! Can't wait!
Happy 250th Episode to #GreysAnatomy
#TGIT New Promo featuring our FAVE Doctor
Celebrate Sara's Birthday 8/31
READ THIS: Immigration Equality Message from Sara!
Let Sara's own words (when accepting an award from the Arizona chapter of the Human Rights Campaign) remind you why it's important that we help those who need an extra hand. Be a part of Sara's Village...make the world a better place.
"It takes a village, and it takes knowing in our hearts that it is our human right to love and be loved. We are all worthy of respect, love and equal rights. If you feel you don’t have a village that you can trust and lean on, you create your own, a village made up of people who you know accept you, and will support you. Some of us must start out being our own village but I assure you there are people waiting to accept you and support you. If Doctor Calliope Iphigenia Torres has taught me anything, it is that although we don’t choose our sexual orientation, we do chose what we believe about our own self worth."
Here's that link again https://imeq.secure.force.com/sara/ Help us make Sara's birthday the best one yet!
Sara's Latest Project! SEND ME
"Created by playwright, screenwriter and actor Steve Harper, and starring Tracie Thoms, Gabrielle Carteris, Nelsan Ellis, Jerrika Hinton, Jasika Nicole, and Carlease Burke, and shot earlier this year in and around Los Angeles, "Send Me" follows a black woman (Thoms) who has the power to send black people back in time, to the slavery era." -- INDIEWIRE
Super Cool News #TEDTalks Live with Sara!
To Be A Fly On The Wall
#LoveWins But The Fight Isn't Over
We Love This #Love Wins
Take a cue from Sara #SupportEquality
Sharing Sara's Words With The World
Cyndi and Sara Make the World A Better Place
R.I.P. Dr. Derek Shepherd
Ms. Ramirez Goes to Washington
10 year ago...March 17, 2005 SPAMALOT
Ten years ago we were in the audience to witness the amazing opening night of MONTY PYTHON'S SPAMALOT! Oh yes, we were Sara fans way back when...
The Lady of The Lake will always be one of our favorite Sara roles...especially because it made the rest of the world realize what a STAR and PHENOMENAL TALENT she is!
HRC Los Angeles Gala
HRC Arizona Ally Award Speech Transcript
We heard from some our readers outside the of the United States that they were having difficulty viewing Sara's Speech at the Human Rights Campaign event where she received the Ally Award. The video is a MUST WATCH .
But for those who were having problems viewing or who would simply like to read her speech, we have transcribed it below. Get ready to be inspired:
Thank you. Wow, thank you so much. Thank you so much.
I will admit that after many years of performing in front of thousands of people, I find myself a little nervous to stand before you tonight so bear with me please. I cannot tell you how profound receiving this award is for me, or how grateful I am for the recognition but I certainly will try.
Picture if you will, a little girl, 8 years old in Mazatlan, Mexico *crowd starts cheering* alright. Her parents split up and suddenly this only child finds herself in the US, unprepared for the years of culture shock, racism, prejudice and divorce trauma that lay ahead. This little girl faces ridicule for being different but also understands the she is privileged and so blessed compared to what others have to go through to live here. Now, this isn't about inducing pity, it’s not about caretakers negligence growing up or how cruel, misinformed people can be, forgiveness has taken place. This is about a person who, despite consistent adversity throughout her childhood managed to persevere and create a self-loving life experience despite the surrounding negativity, and lack of love, acceptance, love and acceptance that was sorely needed.
The arts saved me. The arts saved me.
It was the one place where I felt safe to be me. Turns out I had a gift for singing and my acting and dancing was so bad. and although there were times where I mistook people’s positive reactions to my abilities for the love and attention I was lacking at home, most of the time I was aware of the fact that this wasn't about how many ego strokes I could receive, this was bigger than me. I grew to understand that perhaps this really was my calling and that perhaps an engineering career would have to wait. So, with the help of many angels, many, many angels sent my way and hard work on my part I would wind up in New York City studying at, and four years later graduation from the Julliard’s school’s drama division. Hard work, really hard work paid off and we fast forward to Grey’s Anatomy, an winning TV drama in its 11th season, yeah, oh yeah, on which I have been lucky enough to play the character of Doctor Calliope Iphigenia Torres, a kick-ass orthopedic surgeon who happens to be smart, driven, vulnerable, funny, Latina, and bisexual.
TV is powerful, I think it’s no secret that Hollywood and the media have a huge impact on our culture’s perception of itself. Before I joined the cast of Grey’s Anatomy, I had grown to accept that the media’s images of beauty and intelligence would be indefinitely be exclusive and quite dismissive of all the true beauty and intelligence that surrounds us in the real world, but here was my boss, asking me to show that a woman who looks like me could absolutely be a leader, who explores and enjoys her pleasure center, can fall in love, feels sexy and be a nurturer. Sometimes erroneous, sometimes self aware, vulnerable, powerful, human, and again I thought “wow this is so much bigger than me”. Shonda Rhimes is the same person who showed tremendous commitment when we discussed the possibility of Callie being a vessel for a story about someone who discovers that their sexual orientation is different from what they initially understood it to be.
Most recently, Dr Torres unapologeticly declared that she is bisexual and that it is real. The adversity written for Callie, the way she manages to get back on her own two feet, and her unwavering belief in love are just some of the many things I love about her, she is a survivor, she is a human, flawed yet lovable, perfect in her imperfections, and what an honor is has been to pour my heart and soul into a fictional character who represents something so much bigger than all of us, a character who shows us we are all, each and every single one of us deserving of equality, respect, acceptance, love, compassion. Now, it has been an interesting journey playing this character to say the least.
Recently my husband was asked rather loudly by self-proclaimed fan “what’s it like being married to a woman who plays a …lesbian?”, all pointed like being a lesbian is this awful, horrible thing and well thank goodness my husband is intelligent and evolved because he handled clarifying the truth for this person and hopefully they received it. Later when my husband told me the story, we chuckled at first because obviously this person is not a fan of the show, Dr Torres is bisexual, hello, couldn't even get that part right. But, clarifying that was not as important as the most dangerous part of the exchange, and you know what? we were frustrated, no, we were pissed. In implying that there is something wrong with playing a lesbian, this person who represents folks who speak like this may never know how offensive, disrespectful, and hurtful their tone could be to someone overhearing this exchange, who is a lesbian or a part of the LGBTQ community for that matter. Now, the good news is, this kind of exchange is outweighed by the many, many, many letters that I have received, and continue to receive from people who are a part of the LGBT community. People who see themselves in Callie’s story and who are struggling to find acceptance, a safe place or who have found it and are thriving. There are also countless number of letters and messages I have received from bisexual people who feel seen and heard for the first time. People who, for the first time feel brave and empowered enough to come out to their loved ones because they watched Callie live it on screen, and it turns out, according to the HRC’s recent ‘growing up LGBT in America’ survey, of more that 10,000 American LGBT youth ages 13-17, nearly 40% of the participants identified as bisexual. In 2013, Pew research center survey of LGBT adults , 40% of those respondents were bisexual, that’s almost half of the entire LGBTQ community. Just recently, I read a really great quote from Tallahassee representative, David Richardson regarding Oregon’s governor, Kate Brown, the first openly bisexual governor in the country, where he says, “more importantly is the fact that LGBT leaders are being defined by what we offer as leaders, rather than being defined by our sexual orientation.” I love that, I love that.
Several weeks ago I heard a really touching story about how a few years back, this married couple, whose permission I got to share this, because it is personal, was facing a terrifying time as one of them found out they had a brain tumor. They watched the Grey’s Anatomy musical episode right before surgery and then wanted me to know that she carried my voice into her dreams and it gave her much needed escape, laughter and just… peace before, and I’m happy to say after surgery. Now, you may or may not find it interesting that this couple is made up of two women, one is transgender, and the other is not, and you may or may not find is interesting that the tumor was benign but what I find most interesting is that something that is usually considered “talking heads” or a “commercial for the commercials”, brought comfort and gently ushered a woman and her transgender wife through a life-altering experience. These are the people who I do this for. These are the thoughtful beautiful people who remind me time and time again that the arts and entertainment can be a tool for much needed civic dialog and sometimes just to help people get through a really tough time. These are the beautiful thoughtful people who remind me we are all deserving of the right to marry who we love and have equal access to what’s needed to build the life we want.
Now, on the flip side, there are also mounting reports of violence toward the LGBTQ community, homicide, suicides, everyday. It was recently reported that through the first 7 weeks of 2015, at least 7 transgender women have been murdered. I mean, that’s was like 2 weeks ago, ok? My apologies if I mispronounce these. Bri Golec, Lamia Beard, Ty Underwood, Yazmin Vash Payne, Taja Gabrielle DeJesus, Penny Proud, and just a few weeks ago, Kristina Gomez Reinwald. And then, there’s the case of Nicoll Hernández-Polanco, the asylum seeker from Guatemala who last I read, was being detained in Florence, Arizona, she was placed in an all-male detention center despite homeland security regulation saying ICE should take gender identification into account when assigning migrants to detention facilities. Now since being detained, Nicoll has been assaulted by another detainee and guards have groped her during routine pat-downs referring to her as “it” and “woman with balls”. Violence between transgender women and particularly women of colour is an epidemic, there are so many stories like this, so many members of the LGBTQ community who deserve better from the human race.
This also brings to mind another community vulnerable to violence, migrant workers. Currently under investigation as the tragic story of Antonio Zambrano-Montes, a migrant worker who was shot at by police in Pasco, Washington 17 times, hitting him as many as 7 times for throwing rocks. I’m happy to share that the Obama ministration recently released 2015 national security strategy specifically mentions for the first time, the need to protect LGBT human rights as an objective of U.S. national security. This document says “we will be a champion for communities who are too frequently vulnerable to violence, abuse and neglect such as ethnic and religious minorities, people with disabilities, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals, displaced persons, and migrant workers.”
Leelah Alcorn. Leelah Alcorn, was a transgender young lady because in her own words “after a summer of having almost no friends, plus the weight of thinking about college, saving money for moving out, keep my grades up, go to church every week, and feel like shit because everyone there is against everything I live for, I have decided I have had enough, I’m never going to be happy. There is no way out. The only way I will rest in peace is if one day, transgender people aren't treated the way I was, they’re treated like humans, with valid feelings, and human rights.”. There are too many people in the world who feel as alone as Leelah did. We've lost so many already, we cannot let our LGBTQ children walk the earth feeling less than, feeling worthless, feeling wrong. I stand with you here today and pledge to you that I will continue to do what I can to create more productive civic dialogue around these issues. Change can be uncomfortable for so many but it is everything and it it is possible. Human Rights Campaign community, folks from all walks of life in this room . I thank you for this recognition, but mostly I am humbled by all of you, an amazing group of people who work tirelessly to bring about true quality for the LGBTQ community.
It takes a village, and it takes knowing in our hearts that it is our human right to love and be loved. We are all worthy of respect, love and equal rights. If you feel you don’t have a village that you can trust and lean on, you create your own, a village made up of people who you know accept you, and will support you. Some of us must start out being our own village but I assure you there are people waiting to accept you and support you. If Doctor Calliope Iphigenia Torres has taught me anything, it is that although we don’t choose our sexual orientation, we do chose what we do about our own self worth.
Leelah, this is for you, we will not let you down. Thank you.
MUST WATCH THIS!
Be an Ally! #GotYourBack
This morning GLAAD launched the #GotYourBack campaign. Sign the pledge. Promote acceptance. Let the world know Love is Love. Sara did with THIS amazing picture.
And...we have to say it...WE LOVE THE HAT!!!!!
A Chance For A Real Dialogue
How Much Happy Do We Get?
HAPPY 200th episode to CALLIE TORRES!!!
Sara is having another contest!
If you are a true fan of GREY'S ANATOMY and Shonda Rhimes, you have probably done a little self diagnosis during this LONG winter hiatus and found out you have #TGITWithdrawal. ABC granted all ShondaLand fans a huge gift with it's PSA campaign regarding this very serious issue for ShondaFans. At first it seemed the kids from HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER were going to lead the way along with SCANDAL'S Katie Lowes & Scott Foley and GREY'S Kevin Mckidd (sans his real accent so we know he is in full character as Owen) & our SARA!!!! But then ABC unveiled the real treat...extended versions of the PSAs including this brilliant Callie and Owen spot! WE LOVE IT! It helps with our #TGIT withdrawal but it isn't a cure! Jan. 29th can't get here soon enough!
Now if you need a smile to brighten your day...we suggest you search twitter for the hashtag #TGITWithdrawal!
11 seasons in GREY'S ANATOMY is still #1
A little inspiration from Sara
"In life, Leelah Alcorn felt alone. Born male, she feared she would never be the woman she felt like inside.
In death, the transgender 17-year-old - born Josh Alcorn - wanted to make sure others never felt the way she did.
"The only way I will rest in peace is if one day transgender people aren't treated the way I was, they're treated like humans, with valid feelings and human rights," Alcorn wrote in a post on the social media blog site Tumblr.
"My death needs to mean something," she wrote in the post, which she scheduled to appear the day after her death.
That plea marked her final public words."
Read the full story here in the Cincinnati Enquirer.
Queen Miranda is back
January 29th can't get here fast enough
R.I.P Mike Nichols
One Week Later...Still Reeling
We know what we're doing this weekend!
Fasten your seatbelts...
#NoSpoilers here... because unless you live under a rock you know that next week's GREY'S ANATOMY Episode 1105 is all about Callie and Arizona. We can't wait there is going to be some AMAZING acting going on. We love to see Sara SHINE in the spotlight!
First post by Sara in Messages from Sara
Shonda! Shonda! Shonda!
It's not funny.
REALLY? This morning while doing our favorite Friday morning after Grey’s Anatomy activity – googling Sara, we found the dumbest site on the internet – a news site run out of China that buries in the small print the fact that everything on it is apparently made-up.
We hesitate to even name it because we don’t want the add to whatever little traffic they are desperately trying to get so that they can earn money from our clicks But here is a little screen grab so you can see how dumb this is. Now we love a clever parody or outright humor as much as the next guy or gal – bring it on THE ONION or FUNNY OR DIE…but this site thinks a humorous parody (their description not ours) is a totally bogus - by their own admission - tale of Sara and Ryan having broken up including a fake fan eyewitness account and fake tweets in response.
Um…sorry we must of missed how this is a funny or a parody versus just being mean and an outright lie?
Other tall tales from this site…a 15 year old actor from a popular sit-com is secretly married, stories of non-existent nude photos of many stars, Fake deaths, and tons of fake break-ups – Funny? NOT.
We were going to warn all of you Sara fans about gross sites like this and this bogus article, but then we remembered any fan of Sara has the taste and intelligence to identify BULLS*#T when they see it.
We have a suggestion for the folks behind this fake news site: There are a lot of things going on in this world that DESERVE attention. Stop making up stuff to get attention (and we are sure ad dollars) for yourself. If you need some ideas why not check out the numerous causes that celebrities including Sara try to draw attention to. You might actually make more money doing good in the world than making up crap.
The Ultimate Throw-Back ANY DAY
Sara Sings: The Man That Got Away
Season 11 is here #TGIT
Who broke Twitter last night?
Sara and Jessica Capshaw gave GREY'S ANATOMY fans a fabulous pre-premiere gift in the form of matching tweets! The uber-creative selfies got close to 15,000 favorites and over 7,000 RTs.
We have to admit the cheeky message "I always feel like somebody's watching meeeee..." not only made us laugh but got us wondering...what were the ladies filming when the pics were taken???
One of our favorite things about Sara (and there are too many to list in one post) is how she is an activist and uses her social media feeds to alert fans to important issues and causes. She recently posted this amazing speech by Emma Watson about feminism and the launch of the HeForShe program which encourage Men and Women to join the fight for Gender Equality. You can learn more about this amazing movement at the HeForShe website!
To keep up-to-date on this important fight, we recommend following @HeForShe and @UN_Women on twitter.
When Sara talks...we listen
WOW. Sara was right. This is one amazing singer and a fabulous album. We were dancing around the room as soon as it started playing. We aren't embarrassed to admit it. We even imagined for a few minutes that we were jamming along with Sara and her hubby!
Get your copy today and we bet you won't be disappointed.
Now, if Sara would just release another album...
Shonda Rhimes talks #Calzona with Entertainment Weekly
Before all of the #Calzona fans start freaking out at the headline of ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY's chat with Shondra Rhimes...check out this quote from Shonda:
"There are two parallel relationships: Meredith and Derek’s relationship and Callie and Arizona’s relationship. Meredith’s journey and Callie’s journey are two big journeys that we really want to look at this season as we’re telling these stories."
This is the BEST NEWS EVER because it means our favorite leading lady Sara will be getting LOTS of screen time. And that is something we can get behind.
Before you send us a ton of emails...we love #Calzona as much as everyone else, but we also love seeing Sara devour Shonda's dramatic and heart-wrenching story lines, and this interview sure makes it sound like Callie will be front and center for most of the season. And Shonda if you by some crazy chance are reading this...we can also get behind a lot more fun scenes with Callie and Meredith. We know no one will ever replace Cristina as Meredith's person but we think Callie would be fine substitute!
Season 11 Sneak Peek!
ABC just posted a sneak peek of Season 11 of GREY'S ANATOMY. Check out the #OrthoPosse in action.
Now that's a #selfie!
Sara also updated her bio on all three channels to make sure you can find her. Have you liked her new Facebook page yet? Looks like our girl is geared up and ready to go for the new season of #GREYSANATOMY which if we haven't reminded you recently starts on THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25 8|7c.
Sara started an official Facebook Page!!!
Our girl is taking over social media! Just a note - you can use the icons on the upper left of the corner of the site to find all of her accounts (Facebook, Twitter and Instagram).
First pics of #GeenaDavis with Sara!
Grey's Anatomy Cast #IceBucketChallenge
Need a Sara fix?
#ShondaRhimes posts #Calzona pic
#GreysAnatomy Back in Production
#BreakingNews GREY'S ANATOMY Fall Premiere Announced!
GREY'S ANATOMY will be returning to our TV screens on Thursday, September 25 at a new time, 8pm ET and PT / 7pm CT. SCANDAL and HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER will follow GREY'S, so Thursdays will now be known and SHONDA-days! Check out the new ABC promo "Thank God It's Thursday" below:
#ShondaSpeaks: Interviews from TCAs
Callie and Arizona are poised to explore surrogacy. What kind of obstacles will that present for them? Or is that just a Band-Aid at this point?
Yes, it is a Band-Aid. It's going to be revealed very quickly that it is a Band-Aid. How could it not be? I don't know if anybody could watch that and go, "Oh yeah, that's the answer for them." How could Arizona say, "Yes, I could have a baby but I don't want to" and not feel like a Band-Aid for whatever is going on with their relationship. I love the idea that for them, it's going to open up the opportunity for them to finally explore everything that's wrong and whether or not they should be together at all or whether or not they want to be together at all. Their entire relationship, by the way, has been a series of Band-Aids. It's heartbreaking and it's beautiful and it's either you choose to fix all the Band-Aids that are wrong and be together or you move on. But it's a choice of commitment and we're going to watch them explore that stuff.